jarv Hat gesagt… Boris you are one of this persons that are standing in the middle of the marketplace bellowing.
Jerry.
I think you right - seeing this unbelievavble atrocities and true genocide helpless I'm simply so stunned that I shout in anger - true. There is nothing to have a dialog with to a mass graves perperator - argued eloquently for on mass media or bloggers. I'm fat up _ I want that this killing stops NOW - without endless dialog.
Dick said... I fully understand boris' anger and frustration. I am angry and frustrated as well, both at the loss of innocents and with Hezbollah, an organization who won't hesitate to see their own people suffer if it will advance the struggle. Sorry to say - I really dont want to insult you but: The same what you quoted on the military arm of Hizbollah (I'm no friend with) could be said to any US army Vietnam veteran. He was used to fight against a never existing US enemy (the legitaimate local resistance - e.g Viet Cong) - for a phantom domino theory only living in a few neocons brains - simply to fill the military gap the french have left. After being defeated. On the way to fulfill US expansionist dreams they killed a few millions e.g. collateral damage in Burma, Vietnam, Laos and many more countries and left as losers - right?
You got symptoms, actions, responseses & reasons upside down.
If you would like to deal with any problem you have to go analytical after the true reasons where the problems are here in first place. See it like a doctor doing a solid anamnesis.
The real reason for the trouble is not per se hizballa hizbolla is only the symptom not the cancer so the key question is:
why are hizballa, hamas, fatach e.g. in business and in full swing as grassroots organizations (hospitals, schools, housing, banking, social services, pensions e.g. and yes military) in first place?
Why is hizbollah so sexy and cooperation with Israelis so unrewarding to the folks you hammer on their own ground that they give their life happily only to get out of this mess - and see it even as great deal to march with a fat belt in a pizzeria?
If you clarify that question and get rid of their political argument - e.g. take over your competitors basis /arguments/attractivity/ sexiness/ motives (the resistance movements are always founded when somebody grabs land. You are. Hamas when Lebanon was occupied the first time and gave by Sharons action to the words Sabra & Shatilla worldwide a totally new meaning & sense) they have - then you have a solution for the next move to achieve your goal in hand.
Of coures it is a hard sell to bulldoze houses, send laser guided bombs in hospitals and UN posts, kick the people around and rip out olive trees and try to convince in return the folks to send you Sacher cake in appreciation. And cry foul when some without any perspective kick back by throwing stones or stone age home made propellants.
Politics work like free market systems. You can probably kill some hizballa reps by military force - but hardly a idea or hate. So you get nothing by killing - what you get is immense collateral damage to your general political credit. And not a iota more security.
You ask:
Tell me something, is there a politician you do support? All I hear from you is that elected European, American and Israeli officials are fat, ugly, delusional, stupid, drunk and evil.
Regarding politicians you got it - most of them are corrupt. But the "democratic elected - runner up chosen by a party" are much worse then the "dictators" or military leaders who can at least manage - they are as a rule incompetent. This lies in the negative selection process a so to say democratic election process inherits by party nomination and buying of votes - regularly only the worst scum prevails. And therefore politicians are easy prey to all kind of propaganda - especially zionistic. Ask Rabbi Weissfish for his opinion.
Politician I like as personalities, steadfastness and characters are the current Austrian President Dr.Heinz Fischer (i think he is jewish by the way - but I could be wrong - anyhow it does not matter a bit), Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Indhira Ghandi, Ward Churchill, Rabbi E Weissfish (NETUREI KARTA) or Noam Chomsky. I personally would like to see Apples CEO Steve Jobs as US president and Chomsky as secretary of state :-) In a capitalistic world one can phantasy about a dream team - so if all this is to commie & leftist for your taste I have I real neocon falcon whom sharp intelligence & honestness I appreciate:
Former President Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, a old warlord is my favorite ultra-right wing author on US foreign policy matters is my second choice.
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jarv Hat gesagt…
Boris you are one of this persons that are standing in the middle of the marketplace bellowing.
Jerry.
I think you right - seeing this unbelievavble atrocities and true genocide helpless I'm simply so stunned that I shout in anger - true.
There is nothing to have a dialog with to a mass graves perperator - argued eloquently for on mass media or bloggers.
I'm fat up _ I want that this killing stops NOW - without endless dialog.
I shout - STOP!
ok.
something else?
Dick said...
I fully understand boris' anger and frustration. I am angry and frustrated as well, both at the loss of innocents and with Hezbollah, an organization who won't hesitate to see their own people suffer if it will advance the struggle.
Sorry to say - I really dont want to insult you but:
The same what you quoted on the military arm of Hizbollah (I'm no friend with) could be said to any US army Vietnam veteran.
He was used to fight against a never existing US enemy (the legitaimate local resistance - e.g Viet Cong) - for a phantom domino theory only living in a few neocons brains - simply to fill the military gap the french have left.
After being defeated.
On the way to fulfill US expansionist dreams they killed a few millions e.g. collateral damage in Burma, Vietnam, Laos and many more countries and left as losers - right?
Eitan B
Your wrong.
You got symptoms, actions, responseses & reasons upside down.
If you would like to deal with any problem you have to go analytical after the true reasons where the problems are here in first place.
See it like a doctor doing a solid anamnesis.
The real reason for the trouble is not per se hizballa hizbolla is only the symptom not the cancer so the key question is:
why are hizballa, hamas, fatach e.g. in business and in full swing as grassroots organizations (hospitals, schools, housing, banking, social services, pensions e.g. and yes military) in first place?
Why is hizbollah so sexy and cooperation with Israelis so unrewarding to the folks you hammer on their own ground that they give their life happily only to get out of this mess - and see it even as great deal to march with a fat belt in a pizzeria?
If you clarify that question and get rid of their political argument - e.g. take over your competitors basis /arguments/attractivity/ sexiness/ motives (the resistance movements are always founded when somebody grabs land. You are. Hamas when Lebanon was occupied the first time and gave by Sharons action to the words Sabra & Shatilla worldwide a totally new meaning & sense) they have - then you have a solution for the next move to achieve your goal in hand.
Of coures it is a hard sell to bulldoze houses, send laser guided bombs in hospitals and UN posts, kick the people around and rip out olive trees and try to convince in return the folks to send you Sacher cake in appreciation. And cry foul when some without any perspective kick back by throwing stones or stone age home made propellants.
Politics work like free market systems.
You can probably kill some hizballa reps by military force - but hardly a idea or hate. So you get nothing by killing - what you get is immense collateral damage to your general political credit.
And not a iota more security.
You ask:
Tell me something, is there a politician you do support? All I hear from you is that elected European, American and Israeli officials are fat, ugly, delusional, stupid, drunk and evil.
Regarding politicians you got it - most of them are corrupt.
But the "democratic elected - runner up chosen by a party" are much worse then the "dictators" or military leaders who can at least manage - they are as a rule incompetent.
This lies in the negative selection process a so to say democratic election process inherits by party nomination and buying of votes - regularly only the worst scum prevails.
And therefore politicians are easy prey to all kind of propaganda - especially zionistic. Ask Rabbi Weissfish for his opinion.
Politician I like as personalities, steadfastness and characters are the current Austrian President Dr.Heinz Fischer (i think he is jewish by the way - but I could be wrong - anyhow it does not matter a bit), Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Indhira Ghandi, Ward Churchill, Rabbi E Weissfish (NETUREI KARTA) or Noam Chomsky.
I personally would like to see Apples CEO Steve Jobs as US president and Chomsky as secretary of state :-)
In a capitalistic world one can phantasy about a dream team - so if all this is to commie & leftist for your taste I have I real neocon falcon whom sharp intelligence & honestness I appreciate:
Former President Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, a old warlord is my favorite ultra-right wing author on US foreign policy matters is my second choice.
See:
www.flickr.com/photos/artedelares/133203132/
How about your personal choices, dream teams for a future multiethnic Palestine / Israel - non-racial determined not based on chosen people?
Tere
I have included Morales - thanks for the tip - see:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/72795424@N00/195756299/?#comment72157594211628686
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